Category Archives: Clemens

Has Koufax’s Second-Coming Already Arrived?

My first post on this blog talked about Roger Clemens and taking a look at his achievements from a historical perspective. Now, about a month later, I’m finally coming through on this promise and writing about pitchers, so here goes: 

Roger Clemens: 4916 2/3 IP, 354-184, 4672 Ks, 3.12 ERA, 7 Cy Young Awards, and an MVP  

Greg Maddux: 4814 1/3 IP, 347-214, 3273 Ks, 3.11 ERA, 4 Cy Youngs

Pedro Martinez: 2673 2/3 IP, 209-93, 3030 Ks, 2.80 ERA, 3 Cy Youngs

A quick glance at the numbers above, and it seems as though this post could write itself. Clemens is the most dominant pitcher of his generation. He pitched in the more offensively potent AL throughout his entire career, has put up unbelievable numbers, and is one of only two pitchers to win an MVP since 1985 (the other being Dennis Eckersley). But I want to investigate this topic a little bit more, with one caveat:

Let’s throw out the possibilty that Clemens, Maddux, and Martinez took steroids. As hard as that seems in light of the recent allegations involving Clemens, I’d rather just judge these players purely on performance. It’s difficult and unfair for us to be too judgemntal about the Performance Enhancing Drug accusations considering we neither fully understand the scope of steroids’ presence in baseball over the last two decades, nor do we know how much steroids can positively affect one’s performance on the diamond. With this in mind, let’s take a closer look.

My first question is, if you had one Hall of Fame vote which one of the three would you give it to? When looking at Clemens’ SEVEN Cy Youngs, his rare MVP award, and his strikeout totals (he ranks second all time!) the only question that arises is which cap he’s going to wear on his HOF plaque after he gets my all important vote. Throw in a couple of World Series rings and the famous 20 K game, and he’s the one, right?

You know where this is going. Check out his page on baseball-reference.com. He has some unbelievable seasons 1986, 1990-1992, 1997-1998, and 2005 stand out. So 7 out of the 20 years in which he pitched at least 140 innings were great (I’m using this cut off so that his first two and last two seasons don’t count), his highest ERA in any of these seven years was 2.65 and he averaged over 19 wins throughout those years. On the other hand, Clemens has 7 seasons over this span where his ERA was at least 3.60 – including 4 seasons where his ERA was over 4 – and he averaged 12.5 wins and about 10 losses per season over those seasons. With Clemens you got a lot of inconsistency, you didn’t know which Clemens would show up from year to year. Aside from that three year span in the early 90s, Clemens frequently went from a season or two with an ERA below 3 to one with an ERA above 4.

Let’s look at Maddux, after all he ranks second among these three pitchers with 4 Cy Youngs. Combine that with the lofty win total, and the surprisingly high 11th all-time ranking in Strikeouts, and he could very well garner my vote. Starting with 1992, his last season in Chicago and going all the way through to his second to last season with the Braves in 2002 you get one amazing season after another, in fact only ONE of those 11 years saw Maddux’s ERA climb above 3.00! Maddux also won a World Series during that time and was the Ace on one of the best teams of his era. He was the go-to-guy during the majority of the Braves 14 consecutive division titles. To add to this impressive resume, during the 16 seasons that make up the meat of his career, Maddux’s ERA was below 4 every year. While Clemens had some great seasons 20 years apart, Maddux’s stretch of great seasons was slightly shorter, but he managed to consistently perform during that smaller time frame.

Before artists start sculpting Maddux’s plaque, I’m going to look at Pedro’s stats. Obviously Pedro doesn’t have the longevity of Maddux or Clemens, and barring several years of a clean health slate (ok, so barring a miracle) his career will wind down within a few years after the last of the 52 million dollars he is owed through the end of this season comes his way. He is some 2,000+ innings behind the aformentioned workhorses, and based on nothing but my observation has little more than 600 Major League innings left. Nevertheless, he has amassed some impressive numbers, and more importantly some ridiculous campaigns. I would argue without much doubt that Pedro’s stretch from 1997-2003 was the most impressive seven year stretch (or any set of at least three consecutive seasons) since they lowered the mound prior to the 1969 season, and perhaps ever.  

His totals over these 7 seasons are 1408 IP, 118-36, 2.20 ERA, 1761 Ks. The average season over this span saw him accumulate a 17-5 record with 201 IP, 2.20 ERA, and about 252 Ks. Obviously the innings are a little bit low – the knock on Pedro, after all, was that he was never consistently healthy – but those ERA and Strikeout numbers are ridiculous. Now, consider the fact that the years 1997-2003 were probably the height of the Steroid Era. These were the seasons preceeding baseball’s testing program and in the middle of the HR craze. Throw in the fact that outside of his 1997 season, Pedro pitched in the AL. So, Martinez was putting up these seasons during what is quite possibly the greatest offensive era in the history of his sport, in the superior offensive league, and in perhaps the best offensive division in that league. This is reflected in a stat called Adjusted ERA+, which measures, by ratio, how much better a pitcher was in a given season than the average pitcher adjusted for the appropriate home ballpark. So, in Pedro’s case, compare the average pitcher’s ERA, adjust that for Fenway Park, and then divide that number by Pedro’s ERA. Pedro is the all-time leader in this statistic. Better than Sandy Koufax, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, and certainly better than Maddux and Clemens. Pedro has done a better job of preventing runs than either Clemens or Maddux, unfortunately in decidedly less innings.

So the decision comes down, for me, to Maddux and Pedro. Maddux has the extra Cy Young award, but Pedro has the best winnings percentage of any pitcher with at least 200 wins. Maddux has the extraordinary longevity, Pedro has, perhaps the most impressive seven year stretch of any pitcher in the history of baseball. Yeah, I said it. I challenge anyone to come up with a 4-7 season span of pitching that impressive. Other pitchers may have slightly better numbers but keep in mind the era in which Pedro achieved those numbers. (Check out Pedro’s 2000 season, the best season ever by a pitcher. 18-6 with a 1.74 ERA and 11.8 Ks per 9 innings.) Maybe if all three were available to me as rookies I would choose Maddux because I’d be garanteed a consistently excellent and longer career, but the Hall is reserved for the best, and so If I had one vote I would give it to Pedro and perhaps the most dominating seven year period this game has ever seen.

-Abfus

P.S. I will learn how to write more succinct posts, hopefully better reads than these last few very technical ones.

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Stutter Step

First, a little about this blog. This blog was created to put important things into perspective. I’m not talking about politics, the economy, world peace, or anything of that nature – I’m talking about sports. I love sports; I love playing sports, I love watching sports, I love talking about sports, I love its cultural impact, I love sports uniforms, and most of all I love sports history.

Sports history though, has taken an interesting turn. With the endless amounts of 24/7 sports media outlets, fan blogs, statistical sites, and the like, sports is very NOW!. Every player, it seems, is described as “the best _______ since…”. Sports are so much more hyped than they were years ago, and so today’s athletes are revered to a greater extent than they were 30 years ago. Thus, the media and fans have had an easy time crowning athletes, without regard for the legends.

Well Stutter Step is out to change that. We are going to take players in the news, and put them in historical perspective – we are going to compare them to a player of the past. For example, Roger Clemens has been in the news a lot lately for his alleged involvement with steroids. Scattered across columns and articles in ESPN, the New York Times, etc. are references to Clemens as “one of the greatest right handed starters,” or “a first-ballot hall of famer,” in addition to whatever the day’s news is regarding performance enhancing drugs. Well, Stutter Step is going to investigate this.

 Does Clemens belong in the Hall before Pedro?

Let’s examine Clemens in comparison to some other great strikeout pitchers. Nolan Ryan, Walter Johnson, or maybe even Pedro Martinez. Who should get into the Hall of Fame first? Pedro or Clemens. These are the type of questions SS thinks people need to discuss. What better way to get this discussion started, than with a blog that presents two players, analyzes them, and then compares them?

-Abfus